tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7449503.post115111612102742837..comments2024-03-22T03:35:27.752-04:00Comments on Written Inc.: Unpublish Daycarmilevyhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/00360045114379957605noreply@blogger.comBlogger21125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7449503.post-1151339537249363932006-06-26T12:32:00.000-04:002006-06-26T12:32:00.000-04:00i think if it is clearly an accident and the perso...i think if it is clearly an accident and the person stays at the scene then the guilt that they have to live with for the rest of their lives is going to weigh heavily on them. <BR/><BR/>if they leave the scene however, i think they should have the book thrown at them.barbie2behttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00572224850124869618noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7449503.post-1151185438031588082006-06-24T17:43:00.000-04:002006-06-24T17:43:00.000-04:00Michele sent me, Carmi.This is the most difficult ...Michele sent me, Carmi.<BR/><BR/>This is the most difficult part of the law to decide on. How to judge people who intend to do harm is easy. Throw the book at them! But to judge people who didn't intend to do any harm, now that's very difficult. It can only be done on a case-by-case basis and few people will be happy with the results.<BR/><BR/>I used to use a bicycle for all my transportation until I moved to Atlanta where doing so would be a death sentence. I've been involved in 3 accidents while on a bike and the worst one nearly did-in my left elbow and knocked out quite a few teeth. The elbow healed in 6 months but oddly enough the teeth never grew back. Damn cars!utenzihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15988445461413550750noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7449503.post-1151184320831416272006-06-24T17:25:00.000-04:002006-06-24T17:25:00.000-04:00i'm with prego i guess..though it really does driv...i'm with prego i guess..<BR/><BR/>though it really does drive me nuts that car drivers think they own the bloody ground we pedestrians and bikers and cyclists also use.<BR/>back via michele again*kedahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05996009634057410650noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7449503.post-1151179391812604292006-06-24T16:03:00.000-04:002006-06-24T16:03:00.000-04:00When I was in my twenties, my best friend Donna wa...When I was in my twenties, my best friend Donna was killed by a drunk driver whils she was riding her bike. The driver hit and ran, but was found within a couple of days. He got 3 years for vehicular homicide. Three years for snuffing out the life of my friend, a talented artist and a really cool person. Three frigging years. And I don't even think he had to serve all of it. <BR/><BR/>And people call our court system the greatest in the world. I don't think so.<BR/><BR/>Here via Michelemargalithttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09782326504951603071noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7449503.post-1151179303369238472006-06-24T16:01:00.000-04:002006-06-24T16:01:00.000-04:00All I know is I am glad you it wasn't youAll I know is I am glad you it wasn't youYoung Ladyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03117844320148741884noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7449503.post-1151178852206231122006-06-24T15:54:00.000-04:002006-06-24T15:54:00.000-04:00Hey Carmi. It's been awhile since I've stopped by...Hey Carmi. It's been awhile since I've stopped by and, while Michele didn't send me, she did remind me that I should come by on my own.<BR/><BR/>As for the driver: Suitable punishment is hard to determine. If there are drugs, alcohol or stupidity involved, throw the book at them. But what about the times when bikers or pedestrians dart in front of a vehicle thinking "I can just make it" and expecting they'll get through? I live in a large city and it does happen. If the driver didn't see the biker and stopped, called 9-1-1 and waited for the cops then there may be room and the need for more mercy. <BR/><BR/>It's really quite subjective, you know?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7449503.post-1151170904339016712006-06-24T13:41:00.000-04:002006-06-24T13:41:00.000-04:00Thanks for stopping by my blog! :) I think it depe...Thanks for stopping by my blog! :) I think it depends on if it's a hit and run or if the person stops. <BR/><BR/>God allows things to happen at times that make no sense to me and although I can't say I don't question him, I trust him that all things happen for his glory and I just have to hold onto that.Christyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02932007213063890925noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7449503.post-1151169241183029512006-06-24T13:14:00.000-04:002006-06-24T13:14:00.000-04:00Here from Michele.There should be a big difference...Here from Michele.<BR/><BR/>There should be a big difference between an accident from mechanical failure and that of sheer negligence. And a major difference between someone who stayed at the scene trying to help and someone who flees.<BR/><BR/>I agree that the guilt of causing someones death is something the person will never get over. <BR/><BR/>Punishment? So many things to take into consideration.<BR/><BR/>And Carmi, it is nice to see a journalist who cares about the truth of their material. You are a rare find.srphttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11751987787364198318noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7449503.post-1151168763510346802006-06-24T13:06:00.000-04:002006-06-24T13:06:00.000-04:00punishment is a toughie....obviously if they have ...punishment is a toughie....<BR/><BR/>obviously if they have killed through neglect then it is murder (sorry, manslaughter these days!).<BR/><BR/>If it's ignorance then re-education....<BR/><BR/>mind you, I'd like to shoot some of those drivers who think they can be seen in fog without fog lights!<BR/><BR/>cq<BR/>Here via Michele - last call before I begin dinner....craziequeenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15098227916486173799noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7449503.post-1151160224149903362006-06-24T10:43:00.000-04:002006-06-24T10:43:00.000-04:00Carmi, I had to come see you from Lazy Daisy's blo...Carmi, I had to come see you from Lazy Daisy's blog...My nickname in school was "Big Bird" because I was a big girl for my age (6 feet tall at 13 years old). But, I have to take issue...It IS easy being green...have you checked out my blog lately????Jenniferhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10649007194044098187noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7449503.post-1151156277727985582006-06-24T09:37:00.000-04:002006-06-24T09:37:00.000-04:00It is really difficult to determine "fault" in veh...It is really difficult to determine "fault" in vehicluar crashes. (We learned in law enforcement never to call them accidents, because it was always somebody's fault...there just aren't that many Acts of God these days.) There are usually a ton of mitigating circumstances as you mentioned. That said, if the crash was caused by some sort of inattention or recklessness on the driver's part then that driver should absolutely pay the consequences.<BR/><BR/>BTW, I'll be coming back more often. I dig your style!Julinesshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05504645263495579214noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7449503.post-1151154542712344052006-06-24T09:09:00.000-04:002006-06-24T09:09:00.000-04:00It's hard to say what the punishment should be. I ...It's hard to say what the punishment should be. I think, personally, that hit-and-run penalties are probably sufficient. People are doing 4, 5, 6 years for that.<BR/><BR/>I think there's a difference between an 'accident' and 'negligence'. Driving too fast for road conditions is almost always negligence. Like people who have accidents when it rains: what, you've never driven in rain before? It is the driver's responsibility to take road conditions into account.<BR/><BR/>I'd like to see less enforcement of speed as an absolute limit: what good does it do anybody to have somebody out at the end of a long straight on a clear summer day handing out tickets? There should be more people ticketed for tailgating and driving through traffic at 40kmh more than everyone else. THOSE things are dangerous, not driving 130 in a 110 zone.<BR/><BR/>Actually, I'd like it if some of the cops who sit on those long straights would come and nail some of the people who drive through the playground zone here at 70-80 kmh.<BR/><BR/>Whew, rant over.Deanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10023986850397045322noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7449503.post-1151119798014463942006-06-23T23:29:00.000-04:002006-06-23T23:29:00.000-04:00Michele sent me, it is hard when an accident is ju...Michele sent me, it is hard when an accident is just that an accident.<BR/>Appropriate punishment for a hit and run though would be jail time because the "run" part needs to be dealt with harshly in my opinion.WendyWingshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08170972469675440516noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7449503.post-1151119609962638252006-06-23T23:26:00.000-04:002006-06-23T23:26:00.000-04:00First - accidents happen - we all miss judge, over...First - accidents happen - we all miss judge, over correct ..... we all will probably be involved in some accident that was our fault.<BR/><BR/>Here is where HUMAN beings differ - I would hope that if it was my daughter/sister/friend/self on the bike that the driver would respect me enough (and their selves) to stay and own up to their mistake. When they don't. I believe that they should pay by having to lecture every driver's ed class that they can and share with them HOW they killed someone and tried to walk away - like nothing happened. <BR/><BR/>I've always thought it ironic that I taught my children not to play with fire and knives - but when they turned 15 I gladly handed them the most deadliest of weapons and crawled into the other side of the car - trusting my life to the kid I had grounded until they were 40 just the week before!OMHhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09316600458810320044noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7449503.post-1151118936172158112006-06-23T23:15:00.000-04:002006-06-23T23:15:00.000-04:00I don't know Carmi. That is a gard question to ans...I don't know Carmi. That is a gard question to answer...I will have to think about that one...And Michele sent me tonight, my dear...OldLady Of The Hillshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02458879772193114892noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7449503.post-1151118535104956682006-06-23T23:08:00.000-04:002006-06-23T23:08:00.000-04:00Carmi, I think they should have to stand trial and...Carmi, I think they should have to stand trial and be judged there. If sheer negligence cause it, the punishment could be different than if willfulness was the cause. <BR/><BR/>Michele sent me.kenjuhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07342414519714356343noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7449503.post-1151118473752370752006-06-23T23:07:00.000-04:002006-06-23T23:07:00.000-04:00I don't know. My daughter is driving now, and it's...I don't know. My daughter is driving now, and it's one of the hardest things I've ever had to deal with--people make mistakes.<BR/><BR/>As for hit and run drivers, I can't imagine what such people are thinking, and the appropriate punishiment is the full stretch--whatever that is.vanxhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10643695820028757800noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7449503.post-1151118013719271622006-06-23T23:00:00.000-04:002006-06-23T23:00:00.000-04:00If it truly was accidental, I think that having to...If it truly was accidental, I think that having to live with the guilt of it would be punishment enough. I can't imagine how the driver could get through a day without thinking of that woman.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7449503.post-1151117648024628932006-06-23T22:54:00.000-04:002006-06-23T22:54:00.000-04:00Wow. That's so sad. I remember my first year tea...Wow. That's so sad. <BR/><BR/>I remember my first year teaching I thought it'd be environmentally responsible for me to ride a bike for the two miles to work. The third day, somebody approaching a red light thought it'd be entertaining to 'crowd the plate' at the crosswalk as I rode by. I think that was the last bike ride I took.<BR/><BR/>An accident like that, as tragic as it is, is the result of sheer stupidity. People forget physics when they're behind the wheel and completely disregard the elements and their surroundings. I can't think of more punishment than having to live with the guilt of making such an egregious error. Community service, I suppose is the catch-all. I think it should be augmented. If it's a woman, make her watch an entire season of bass fishing on TSN. If it's a man? The Bette Midler Video Collection.<BR/><BR/><BR/>(By the way, I watched that whole Car/Edm series. I'd have given my left skate to watch Ryan Smyth and Chris Pronger hoist the Stashu Cup)<BR/><BR/>pPregohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02956114382782427084noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7449503.post-1151117346303087542006-06-23T22:49:00.000-04:002006-06-23T22:49:00.000-04:00"appropriate punishment"......that's very difficul..."appropriate punishment"...<BR/><BR/>...that's very difficult, i'd havta think on it for awhile.<BR/><BR/>in the meantime, thanks for stoppin' by.Karenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16583773305351498372noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7449503.post-1151117278862326012006-06-23T22:47:00.000-04:002006-06-23T22:47:00.000-04:00Regardless, I've always luv the way you get clear ...Regardless, I've always luv the way you get clear to the point.<BR/>I've been involved in a hit and run accident, where I had to pay a large deductible.<BR/>I believe they should be punish and pay damages to the person and family.<BR/>Have a great weekend<BR/>MAggieMaggie Lamarrehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14194924763185547798noreply@blogger.com