tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7449503.post115296314343752595..comments2024-03-22T03:35:27.752-04:00Comments on Written Inc.: Publish Day - Ink Blog - The personal price of warcarmilevyhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/00360045114379957605noreply@blogger.comBlogger36125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7449503.post-1153247537312693972006-07-18T14:32:00.000-04:002006-07-18T14:32:00.000-04:00My condolences as well Carmi. I hope he had a rel...My condolences as well Carmi. I hope he had a relatively full and satisfying life -- up to this last chapter of course -- to look back upon and remember.<BR/><BR/>Our most troubling and fearful thoughts are about things that we cannot understand. War is so distant from any right-minded person's schema, their model of how everything fits together, that there is no understanding of it, no way to give it a logical spin. And we don't have any higher level perspective to understand death either. "I'm sorry" along with support is about all we can do.<BR/><BR/>--jsfpersiahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16795966169477040998noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7449503.post-1153236514768695582006-07-18T11:28:00.000-04:002006-07-18T11:28:00.000-04:00i can't say that i understand the conflict between...i can't say that i understand the conflict between Israel and Lebanon, because i don't. but seeing all the young people dying there and in Iraq/Afghanistan just horrifies me. <BR/><BR/>no parent should have to bury a child, and make no mistake... most of those dying in these conflicts are children.barbie2behttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00572224850124869618noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7449503.post-1153204640874999902006-07-18T02:37:00.000-04:002006-07-18T02:37:00.000-04:00i just finished watching "Tears of the Sun" not lo...i just finished watching "Tears of the Sun" not long ago... so reading this just only saddend my heart more.<BR/><BR/>i hate war in every sense of the word...<BR/><BR/>Im sorry about Yaniv: because he was so young, and because he died in a fight that shouldn't be going on, or that he should've been fighting.<BR/><BR/>The sad thing about war - its always going on, just sometimes we dont hear about it till it gets big enough to bother people...<BR/><BR/>i hope his family dont think about this as a loss,(even tho it is) but think of what he did in their lives that made him special to them. The man he became. The love for his grandparents. The hope for the future.<BR/><BR/>Peace be with them. I pray for this. And for you too... not really knowing someone still has that part where you DID know that someone.<BR/><BR/>I wish the world would love each other.Carolahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12320629501495733798noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7449503.post-1153190694577809952006-07-17T22:44:00.000-04:002006-07-17T22:44:00.000-04:00I have cousins I've never met. They are actually t...I have cousins I've never met. They are actually the children of my grandmother's cousins. They live in Israel. When I hear of terrorist and violence in that region, my heart skips a little beat as I wonder about those far off relatives - distant in so many ways.<BR/><BR/>What can one ever really say to comfort a parent, other than I am so very sorry for your loss? To this instance I'd add: your son died a hero - sacrificing his life in the fight to save another, not to mention an entire nation. May God bless him and all who carry on the fight.<BR/><BR/>Carmi, my sympathies to you as well. As difficult as hate and war is to take in general, it's harder when it hits home by putting a face and name to it.Sandyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01859698145917146528noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7449503.post-1153186038942400052006-07-17T21:27:00.000-04:002006-07-17T21:27:00.000-04:00No words suffice. I send thoughts that we all cli...No words suffice. I send thoughts that we all cling to.. hope. Believing good will eventually triumph over evil, as Ghandi said it always does. The waiting and the loss is sometimes unbearable.<BR/>My sincere condolences.<BR/>~SShephardhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07318615370914088651noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7449503.post-1153176578210070672006-07-17T18:49:00.000-04:002006-07-17T18:49:00.000-04:00Terrible, Terrible Carmi...(I've been off the net ...Terrible, Terrible Carmi...<BR/>(I've been off the net quite a bit because if Power Outages all this weekend so I missed this post...but I'm catching up now.)<BR/><BR/>There is no way to measure the cost of loosing a child....no possible way....I am so sorry for the loss to those you know...Very very sad, my dear Carmi. My thoughts and my heart go out to them and you.<BR/>And you are soooo right about the fact that Isreal is surroubded the way it is and has been for as long as anyone can recount...OldLady Of The Hillshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02458879772193114892noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7449503.post-1153112709608767882006-07-17T01:05:00.000-04:002006-07-17T01:05:00.000-04:00You are truly a good soul and a voice of reason, C...You are truly a good soul and a voice of reason, Carmi. It's too bad that many others in the world aren't. I am thinking about your friends and many others in the world.Dianehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08817799398537973505noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7449503.post-1153108567723394082006-07-16T23:56:00.000-04:002006-07-16T23:56:00.000-04:00i dont know what you say to something like that ca...i dont know what you say to something like that carmi... except i'm sorry to hear the news. so sad. will a cyber hug help? (((((hug)))))Jenniferhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11666389601099570500noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7449503.post-1153091743266745232006-07-16T19:15:00.000-04:002006-07-16T19:15:00.000-04:00IDF has some of the toughest troops in the world. ...IDF has some of the toughest troops in the world. This young man was the best of the best and ten times the man I am for having the courage to climb into the confines of a Merkava (perhaps a MK3) and crossing into the heat of battle. May his family find peace and some comfort in knowing that he gave his life for comrads, family and nation.<BR/><BR/>P.<BR/><BR/>I was going to talk Nikon Telephoto, but save it for another day. I am sorry for your loss Carmi.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7449503.post-1153075279284251602006-07-16T14:41:00.000-04:002006-07-16T14:41:00.000-04:00Words do fail me, Carmi. I am deeply sorry for you...Words do fail me, Carmi. I am deeply sorry for your loss. It is all the more heart-breaking when these tragic situations hit one so close to home.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7449503.post-1153069696839160492006-07-16T13:08:00.000-04:002006-07-16T13:08:00.000-04:00My condolences to you on this tragic loss. An exc...My condolences to you on this tragic loss. <BR/>An excellent column, Carmi. You said it all and the way it should be said. And yes, no doubt you'll receive the negatives...they'll always be those that disagree.<BR/>Losing a child is just not the natural order of things.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7449503.post-1153064352929012072006-07-16T11:39:00.000-04:002006-07-16T11:39:00.000-04:00Michele sent me...There's a line in one of the son...Michele sent me...<BR/><BR/>There's a line in one of the songs from "Rent" which says, "The opposite of war isn't peace, it's creation."<BR/><BR/>I have to agree.<BR/><BR/>I have no words to offer. There isn't anything that takes away that pain. Sometimes, I think the Star Trek writers came up with the only adequate response to offer - "I grive with thee" -- <BR/><BR/>But you're a powerful writer, and will find the perfect words of solace, I'm sure.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7449503.post-1153057384832475162006-07-16T09:43:00.000-04:002006-07-16T09:43:00.000-04:00The problems of this world are often used as 'talk...The problems of this world are often used as 'talking points' by politicians, but you're right ~ there is a human element to every story. It isn't just news, it is someone's life. Every single person that dies as a result of war/conflict is someone's brother, son, father, sister, daughter, mother. <BR/><BR/>Here via Michele.Kristalhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08167198322972972758noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7449503.post-1153027539402539992006-07-16T01:25:00.000-04:002006-07-16T01:25:00.000-04:00So sorry for your loss.As well as theirs..So sorry for your loss.<BR/>As well as theirs..Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7449503.post-1153025102894260792006-07-16T00:45:00.000-04:002006-07-16T00:45:00.000-04:00Carmi, my heart goes out to you and your family an...Carmi, my heart goes out to you and your family and the family of the brave warrior who lost his life while serving others.Sandy Jhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02900798427767809817noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7449503.post-1153023733303313022006-07-16T00:22:00.000-04:002006-07-16T00:22:00.000-04:00I'm sure there are people on both sides - includin...I'm sure there are people on both sides - including innocent bystanders - who have far more knowledge of this conflict than I do, so I don't try to comment. I'm sorry for the loss of your family's friend.<BR/>Michele sent me today.Catherinehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08236329216260906624noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7449503.post-1153022396135392452006-07-15T23:59:00.000-04:002006-07-15T23:59:00.000-04:00There is nothing you can say to parents that lose ...There is nothing you can say to parents that lose a child, or to a spouse, worse yet is trying to talk to a 3 year old boy. There simply are not words that work. Thankfully I never had to carry out that duty, everyone that had me on their identification team is still around, but for my friends that did it they say it's the most difficult thing they've ever done, and their role was always a just be there role, not a speaking part. As horrible an answer as violence may be, it can be a better solution than capitulation.<BR/><BR/>Michele sent me.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7449503.post-1153022054692249952006-07-15T23:54:00.000-04:002006-07-15T23:54:00.000-04:00I don't typically post about such things for that ...I don't typically post about such things for that VERY reason~I feel that I'm too far removed to know whereof I speak. <BR/><BR/>I rely on people like you who can tell me the story and make me feel it.<BR/>Thank you.<BR/><BR/>And Michele sent me today! (I'm always happy to visit here!)Shannon akaMontyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00379928121511251819noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7449503.post-1153021154319065802006-07-15T23:39:00.000-04:002006-07-15T23:39:00.000-04:00Hi Carmi, Back via Michele's. Reading the long an...Hi Carmi, Back via Michele's. Reading the long and heartfelt comments here has been good.Florence Forresthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07539672176570172886noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7449503.post-1153006749746188442006-07-15T19:39:00.000-04:002006-07-15T19:39:00.000-04:00I agree, Carmi. That is such a sad and tragic stor...I agree, Carmi. That is such a sad and tragic story. And so true, that people are very quck to judge situations that they know nothing about. Think about it: People do it not just about warring nations, but about personal relationships like divorce. I always say, "Unless you live inside that couple's home, you have no idea." And the same is true for the conflict in the Middle East.Panthergirlhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03701693312528047037noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7449503.post-1153006141162658182006-07-15T19:29:00.000-04:002006-07-15T19:29:00.000-04:00I'm so sorry for the loss of your family friend. B...I'm so sorry for the loss of your family friend. <BR/><BR/>Being a new momma, I cannot bear the thought of losing my child. Even daring to think about it makes me physically ill. I cannot imagine that anything in life is ever as good or as happy as it was before.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7449503.post-1152993531988279592006-07-15T15:58:00.000-04:002006-07-15T15:58:00.000-04:00The only thing you can say to someone who has lost...The only thing you can say to someone who has lost a child--no matter how--is that you're so, so sorry...Nothing is going to take the sting out of it, but they'll remember genuine sorrwow over their loss.Thumperhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02154314376352066709noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7449503.post-1152987539139324952006-07-15T14:18:00.000-04:002006-07-15T14:18:00.000-04:00Michele sent me, Carmi.While I'm not Jewish my ex-...Michele sent me, Carmi.<BR/><BR/>While I'm not Jewish my ex-wife is so I was involved with a lot of secular and religious activities of the Jewish sort. I'll tell you, that riding in a chair after the wedding was one weird feeling! Israel, of course, was a frequent topic at meals and Liz (my Ex) and many of her relatives had spent at least a Summer at a kibbutz and some had many several trips since. But even in that group there was little consensus on what should go on. Regarding US aid to Israel, the Israeli military, physical expansion--it was always a lively discussion.utenzihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15988445461413550750noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7449503.post-1152987443326421482006-07-15T14:17:00.000-04:002006-07-15T14:17:00.000-04:00I think that when a child dies, a part of one's he...I think that when a child dies, a part of one's heart and soul will ache forever. Forever. On a primal level that can never again be touched or ultimately healed. It's easily the worst pain that I've ever seen a person endure. I'm sorry to hear about your family friend. And I was sorry to hear about the escalation of violence (again) against Isreal. To live in a land that is constantly attacked takes a strength and conviction of gigantic proportions. The desire to utterly erase the existence of any culture is so very wrong. I simply don't know how we can ever expect a resolution when one side is so completely unwilling to compromise.Jillhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07113523872827443664noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7449503.post-1152986821582357752006-07-15T14:07:00.000-04:002006-07-15T14:07:00.000-04:00Hello from the other London Carmi. I read the gua...Hello from the other London Carmi. I read the guardian every weekend and the past couple of weeks have been grim. I just can't believe how much sadness and violence there is out there. I'm sorry for your loss, the loss of another person due to the madness of war.Sarah Janehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11708153254275607308noreply@blogger.com